25 minute phone conversation.
There is the mp3 of the conversation.
I have no comments on this other than he seems like a pretty respectable dude. So. Yeah. Enjoy.
It's about a 2.5 mb download.
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uhhh ian did he know you were taping him?
cause if he didnt its a federal offense
: (
PS sorry!!!
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Did he agree to not sell the T-shirts?
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i'm listening to it.
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He knows that I recorded it. Some parts were edited out, mostly us talking about what tech/geek shit we know.
Andy, we are going to discuss the t-shirt matter at another time.
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this is kinda cool.
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Also, during the conversation, you can hear Ian fart, knock over soda cans and burp. It's quite amusing.
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My cameos are awesome.
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zain: "since you are their unofficial leader..."
ian: "i am their official leader."
awesome
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god damn my slow internet. this is going to take forever to download.
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man this is kinda interesting to listen to, as fucked up as it seems
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It's 2.5 megabytes. About as big as the new AIM executable.
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e-commerce solutions
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This guy is a total liar. Everything about his behavior suggests he is very much "in it for the money".
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ZAIN unscrambled = IAN Z
WTF????
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Oh shut up.
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oh man you totally reversed the part where it said someone's name!
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17 minutes and thirty seconds to go!
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Yep. He was speaking about people who called him.
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"...mung that's out of my control"
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Dude, a personable weasle is still a weasle. There is NO way it just happened to slipped his mind to ASK us.
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You will all enjoy the end.
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yeah. it's interesting.
ps. i like the part where you're explaining the history, and he says he'd leave the board
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Anyone who says "brain fart" that much should be forced to eat their own feces.
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Listening to the call now.
What a suck up.
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Especially considering how well he researched copyright laws to throw back in our faces.
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Form your own opinions, but he was very nice a respectful on the phone to me.
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hahahah i heard the knocking over!
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It's the easiest way to dupe someone.
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"It's a good market scheme..."
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Yeah, this is true Andy. I take it with a grain of salt, as I do with everything else.
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"i tend to get a little agitated"
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whoa i got to the part where he talks about the guy getting sued
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"one of the things I do is porn"
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"every day i deal with spreadsheets"
HOLY SHIT
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so no beef with you banning him?
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lol, "form a dialog," "put my cards on the table," "let you know where I'm coming from," all in the same fucking BREATH. What a t00l.
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can you post pertinent details for those of us with slow dial ups?
i'll buy you a cheeseburger!
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Oh he's gonna take legal action... He's a real honorable fellow.
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Well, I say respectful, because he didn't threaten me. He didn't pull anything "bullshit" with me. So yeah. In that respect, he was okay on the phone with me.
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"I just like to get out and do funky shit."
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Please, someone count the number of "mungs" in the conversation.
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he was respectful because you actually have authority. i'm pretty glad you got through some bullshit.
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ian we will use this to our advantage! good job!
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"NOW THAT WE GOT IT I THINK WE GOT POTENTIAL..." what the fuck is this ameture hour at the Elks Lodge?
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in all seriousness, i want to know - if this guy is not in it for the money at all, why doesn't he just take the shit down? he wants the support for further profit, it seems
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"You know what i think is the biggets peice of shit? A COLLEGE diploma."
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Ian you won't see a fucking dime.
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"im a big boy"
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holy shit, i got to the part where ian is talking about how no one gets shit from him on da board. integrity ? yeah .
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duder we wil all be rich out of our own genius!
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HES GOT AN L.A. LAWYER!!!!
he is not off the hook with nause oh nooooooooo
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No he's not off the hook with me either.
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i wish i was into audio editing so i could make a dance remix of his key phrases
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he is totally not really going to give ian half the money. but i think that he wont make any money on it so whatev
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I almost called my L.A. lawyer!!!!
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when he starts talking about money, his voice gets higher and he sounds kinda like the music man. it's funny.
ps. TRAIN NOISES
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ian sounds different than what i imagined. not that i had any particular voice type in mind. uh....
BLAM !
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"we can all get along, do some stuff" OH BUT HES GOTTA WARN YOU IAN DON'T EXPECT ANY MONEY!!!!
"Oh we got some potential..." OH IAN COME ON!!!!! "I know your not a business man..."
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id be happy with a 'bco r00lz +1 scene point' reference on the shirts or something. haha. not that id ever buy one
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Yeah yeah, that's the train at our house.
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also ian sounds like a grownup!!!! ahhaha.
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this is better than the pizza thing.
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"A COOKIE"
okay i will stop quoting
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The part where Ian looped his big sigh is great.
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I'M A DRAG QUEEN AND I'M ALSO NAUSE'S LA LAWYER

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can someone PLEASE post at least the GIST of this conversation?
i can't wait for it to DL
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hahahahah, that was funny.
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in exchange for the shirts he should become a bco peon and yell
'pst n00dz' in public and wear all pink
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YOU WERE GONNA BE A TOUGH NUT TO CRACK
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also ian sounds like a grownup!!!! ahhaha.
i was just thinking that same thing !
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"don't screw around with us. this isn't threatening." :O
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ahahah ianoxdeadbeef!! i just got to the burp!
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you should have been all "IF YOU THINK MY NUTS ARE TOUGH WAIT TILL YOU SEE MY COCK"
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zain: "I'm a big boy"
oh, zain. you don't want to go down that road.
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"ever try code red?" what?
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he does E too! crucail
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"I think that's the biggest fucking piece of shit ever on the planet!!"
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I love the part where he talks about ecstasy.
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LOL I WILL GIVE YOU A BISCUIT
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I'm very well spoken if I do say so myself.
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I hate this guy more now than I did before.
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I hear a train! It's very atmospheric. I am imagining ian as a hard-boiled detective and zain as a mysterious dame.
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why should he think he has a right to anything though?
WE CAN SHARE THIS BUSINESS.
effffff that I will not post here if this guy is watching what we say.
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"ID LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD THRIVE AND MAYBE YOU AND I PERSONALLY THRIVE"
zhahahhahahaahahahahahhahahahahaah
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take me to your leader.
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Andy, do you hate me less? :)
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"have you taken the ccni? it's way hard."
"actually, i heard it was incredibly easy."
"oh."
hahaha
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seemed like a good enough guy, but.. why, if he's not in it for the money, does he keep getting so excited about profit?
ps,
img src="http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~gundlam2/etc/bcojesus.jpg">
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hey oops i rule at html
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i just got to the college degree thing
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i think his use of the term "not for profit" is very questionable, as wel all know non-profits and not for profits are very different, being that the former will not make money, and that the second is not _expressly_ trying to make money, but has stated nothing about it's noble intentions, like nonprofits do. also, seriously i know none of what i speak about suckers. hehehehe. love chuck
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jamal, CCIE. It's supposed to be really hard, but it took this dude like 6 months tops I think. Whatever. Most ccie's make over 100K a year.
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Oh it wont be for profit, but he'll be paying himself a healthy "salary".
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you sounded better than i did cheswit
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ROOOOOOLLLLLLSSSSS
that is one thing i couldn't stop laughing about.
that and the burp.
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right. is that the next step up from ccna? i guy i work with has that.
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Ah I got nothing against you dude. I just wish youd be more cautious around this douche bag.
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also, why does giving ian money help everyone else whose language was used?
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hahahahh the "rolls" conversation just completely cracked me up.
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poor pat
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Yeah, I don't like the way he decided to "team up" with Ian with no discussion about what happens to the people who actually CREATED the phrases.
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it goes ccna, ccnp...
ccie is totally unrelated.
steve, yeah. I felt bad, he's a nice dude.
Greg, that's something I don't quite understand either.
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he has no right to ANY of the money.
fuck this guy. FUCK HIM.
I hope he sues everyone.
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it's like batman/superman adventures. i guess that makes ian superman, since zain is iambatman.
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"a biscuit...HAHAHAHAH"
priceless
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concentration camps?
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I would LOVE to see something like this go to court. It would rule to hear lawyer types talking about this stuff with a serious tone.
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how did this guy ever get to the board?
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i personally think that he thinks that your integrity will break and you'll go for the easy $$.
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did you call him "mung" here and there? GOOD GOD THATS FUNNY
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i'm just sad i am not on a messenger bag!
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Please, someone count the times I say "mung".
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im just glad i archived that thread
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Me too. Right up to the hildetorrs!
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i heard mung at least 3 times.. i laughed really hard everytime..
BISCUITS.. HAHA BISCUITS MAN
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talking on the phone to ian is fun!
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you should go on judge joe brown. we all should.
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'security dude!'
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haha i love how you told him over 15 minutes in that you were recording this call... then you told him you would edit out the irrelevent stuff like talking about his certifications and shit... he probably doesnt have them and is nervous someone is going to find out.
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toediefor: who the fuck are you?
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some west coast ho i think
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ssshhhh no one!
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you too. MUNG.. click
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i want to call you just so i can have my call taped and put into mp3 format
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I would LOVE to see something like this go to court. It would rule to hear lawyer types talking about this stuff with a serious tone.
ahah I was thinking about this Imagine reading the transcript from that thread Zain got on in a court of law.
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you sound like you could kick some ass
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why not someone on here start selling the same thing? Why not everyone in one city get together and each fronts a little cash for the shirts and shit, then set up a site to sell the stuff, where all profits go to this site? As old business practice goes, copy someone else's idea, but make it better, cheaper, and for a "good cause" and it will sell.
and on a personal note about this guy, I feel kind of sorry for him.
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is he going to sue PAULJ????
OH
NO!!!!!!
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i wonder if he has listened to the conversation yet? You know hes not going to like hearing that drug comment on the internet.
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I'm really disappointed that my fart didn't come across clearly.
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i couldn't hear it. maybe it can be enhanced in a new special edition
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fucking great
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I have this on repeat with my ACID visual winamp plug in!
ZAINADELIC!!!
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"ill leave the board entirely"
if he comes back, hes in breach of oral agreement (hehe oral)
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THANK YOU JEFF ROY I JUST SPIT CODE RED ALL OVER MY GOD DAMNED SCREEN!
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That belch was fucking priceless.
Rolls... hehehe...
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haha, i just got to it
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fuck this tool.
pepito pea
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haha, the looped moan is amazing
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by giving ian some of the money, he'll help support the forum where this conversation took place.
i don't think anyone should begrudge that. it's not like it's going to be millions. so what if ian makes $50 from this guy?
it's $50 less zainy brainy can take home, and it supports our leader.
woo!
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"one warning, dont screw around with me, dont screw around with us"
holy shit
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haha.
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I'm going to "take legal action" against anyone who calls me a "fuckface" from now on.
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i did that once and i won a biscuit. love morgan
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fuckface! IAN U R A FUCKFACE!
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I'll sue you!!! Wait -- do you want to be my business partner?
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WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
oh dude my opinion of this board in its entirety was just dropped a notch
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oh dude my opinion of this board in its entirety was just dropped a notch
We all know how valuable your opinion is, idiot.
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ok
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My eyes started to glaze over when you guys were getting all techy.
like this @_@
And then I woke up when I heard this loud crash.
And then he was like.. "BISCUIT. HAVE YOU EVER HAD ONE OF THOSE?"
"BETWEEN YOU ME AND THE FENCE POST"
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ROFL!
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you cant spell imbatman without bama
i think you should agree to his terms as long as we get a copy of his picture
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well you're fucking deleted you dipshit.
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hahahah!
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Username: bimonscificon does not exist
that was fast
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ian is a liar!!!!!
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yeah. i'm not taking shit from stupid accounts anymore.
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WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BULLETPROOF MONK
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dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuun!
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shut it gook.
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daaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnn nigga he done told you!
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TOOLS
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I CONTROL EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM
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I AM UR G0D
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i'm listening to this now. zain is a tool.
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graeme would know
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this is seriously really really really really weird/funny/interesting
i like how he thinks he's in a position of power in the world etc
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sex noises?
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ians got a nice voice, i liked his tone when he was like 'i dont take shit from anybody'. hot!
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e-commerce= Baroque Like Bach
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oh man i almost didn't listen to this but i'm glad i did because this is so funny "oh yeah i record all my phone conversations. oh i'll leave that certification stuff out."
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this calls for a remix.
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How come you scrambled the name of who else called him? Why can't people just harrass this asshole into the ground until he stops? Isn't that people's only REAL defense? It's not like any of this is real or fair in the first place.
Just sort of wondering...
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seriously. zain acts as if he's doing us a favour. what a shit.
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i think hes laying the groundwork for a full invasion
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yeah, an invasion of his ass.
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or perhaps an inspection?

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does this guy still live with his mom or something?
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nerds
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who the fuck is this joker?
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"well, we've got a situation"
this guy is a total suck up. pretty funny.
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A SITuATION. RE HE HEAAAALLYYYYY.
NICE SHORTS TED!
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Highlights:
• The L.A. Lawyer thing
• "A BISCUIT! HAHHA DUDE!"
• "Yes, I record all my phone conversations."
• "You were going to be a tough nut to crack."
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oh i also noticed that he claims he is a CEO into e-commerce but that this is just 'a hobby'
and then he talks of profits.
haha.
'i like your board, i like it alot' - sounds like he wants to buy it.
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I AM A VERY LEGITIMETTT BUSINESS MAN, 2 YEAR DROP OUT OF CAL STATE BUSINESS SCHOOL I NOW LIVE SMARTILY WITH MY MOM. TO SAVE ON CAPITAL AND MAXIMIZE THE OVERHEAD PROSPECTS OF COURSE
ILL HAVE MY PEOPLE CALL YOUR PEOPS
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"i pretty much know the important people."
hahah.
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dude i am so connected.
you know the NYC lawyers? i know all them too
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hey fagman, ian said that.
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this was a good listen. ian pitcher's burp/fart was the best part. i have my computer sound come out my stereo speakers. so i heard that burp in stereo.
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ian i didnt know you had your CCIE thats cool ICUP
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you both sound full of shit
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also when i heard the train part, i thought there was a train outside since i was listening on my stereo speakers (computer line out > receiver) then i realized there are no traintracks around me. by where i lived in ypsilanti, there was a train nearby and also by the house i grew up in in nw columbus
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ryan you can hear the train over by 71 from campus. by 4th ave i think.
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i've never heard it
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weird...
"i like your board and i wanna hang out and be a good guy."
this dude is such a wanker.
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the train sounds were way atmospheric! i'd like to live somewhere where the trains sounded like that.
also, anyone can act "reasonable" on a phone conversation. but the bottom line is that zain simply doesn't get it. this fact isn't encapsulated better than his threat of legal action against something that was said about him on a fucking internet messageboard. it's that simple.
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this is like an edited out scene from The Usual Suspects
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from the opening words, you can tell this guy has his manipulation gear on.
"what should we do about it?"
snake.
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not that anyone cares what i think (i mean, who am i anyway?)
but he sounds like a sleazy scummy wanna be corporate wheeler dealer guy, the like of which has annoyed me at many a temp job. his vocabulary is the WORST!
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If crewcial.org were my board, I'd make every effort to protect the intellectual property of the posters, and to uphold the integrity of the board by not partnering with anyone who isn't intimately related with it's daily "life". I'd prefer to leave it up to the board to come up with "committees" [even if it's just one or two people assigned to carry out particular efforts], as I think it's the best way to strengthen the ties between everyone.. to keep it within the immediate circle. I'm not going to define "immediate circle", because obviously some people are more closely related to this board as it has developed over the years. But I do believe in contribution/benefit. Nothing is free, and to show one's support for the board, one should take it upon one's own self to coordinate an effort and do something.

Contribute. Organize. Realize. Legalize it.
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I have a question. Bear in mind that I neither read the whole thread, nor to I read the board much, so I'm quite "out of the loop."
Is this dude Zain the same stupid spazz from Boston?
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Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.
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no kerry, but every zane ive ever know has been a wet napikin of intelligence...
do the time stamps on the posts protect us any?
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Ryan, likewise.
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tim
copyright 2003
bah!
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what exactly were the phrases being lifted from the board?
tim hath no idea!
bah!
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all our jokes from the "caption these photos" thread, word for word, including typos. he put them on mugs and t-shirts and mousepads and was selling them.
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bah! unto this man!

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MY L.A. LAWYER
BAAHAHAHAHAHAH JESUS FUCK CHRIST
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so does he have a decent hookup for pills? id seel the board for good beans.
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fucking addict
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a girl called this dude a fuckface?
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Amazing. This only shows up as 12:09 in length though.
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it did that for me but it played for the full 25 minutes somehow.
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that sign looping just made me piss myself
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Yeah, it's playing the full 25 for me also, haha. Weird. Something weird with encoding.
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"i just like to do some funky shit"

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damn ian the government need fear you.
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seriously where is my free merch?
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I'm surprised that after he knew the conversation was being taped, he talked about doing drugs, hahaha.
Anyway, the thing that really irks me now is that he stated numerous times that he wasn't in this for the profit, and now he wants to split profits? WTF?
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goatschool posted this on Mar 07th, 2003 at 08:09:22 am EST
from the opening words, you can tell this guy has his manipulation gear on.
is this obvious to anyone but me and nick?
someone who steals other people's ideas and tries to profit from
them is not "respectful." OBVIOUSLY he wouldn't be a wiseass with
you on the phone with him calling him on his shit- he would have
to feign respect.
but that doesn't mean he's actually a good guy.
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thE board has a nE hookup now !
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i say CEASE AND DESIST all cooperation with this dude
but what do i know
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I'm inclined to agree, Liz.
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let me negotiate a settlement as I do it 67001 times a day and know all the business laws !
ps. E !
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Yeah, twist of zain it makes me COME ALIVE!
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whoever mastered that phone conversation needs a lesson in EQ.
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anEonE wanna ask this dudE if he likEs clubbing?
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"HOLY SHIT MY FIRST COMPUTER WAS A COMMODORE SIXTY FOUR!"
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"fake accounts," as we call them...
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"IF I was evil, I don't think I would've done that."
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"i am above virginia, i am east of indiana..."
...
"what will you give me if i figure it out"
"a cookie!"
ahahahaaha
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Hahahah, I love how Ian wouldn't give up where he lived, or even the state. Amazing.
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i haven't read many of the posts about this whole fiasco. the thing is, do you people really think anyone makes any money from cafepress sales?? what's the big deal. he thought some of you were clever enough to put your ideas on shirts and coffee mugs that no one will ever purchase.
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Amazing.
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Against my better judgement, I am listening to this.
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whoever mastered that phone conversation needs a lesson in EQ.
Mastered? Look, the phone receiver was sitting on top of a microphone. You should have heard it before it was EQed.
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weasel

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OH OH OH OH
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Ian, I loved that HUGE crashing noise right in the middle, hahahah
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Hey, I rip people off for a living. This guy knew that the thread had the potential to become an "all of your base..." thing and wanted to get on some quick $$. He's not fooling me.
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the mastering thing was a joke guys,
but i'm willing to do the dance remix!
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hahfjdkhgs "important people"
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wow ian you sound different, very ADULT
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honestly, sounding ADULT is nothing to be proud of or complimented.
pepito pea
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you've got to take it with a grain of salt. and a cock.
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good call heatherw. that part is jsut a little shady but i respect ian for sticking up for his shits.
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i love the warning at the end. it sounded really ominous
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ian needs to send pics of his infamous long schlong to this motherfucker and be done with it.
pepito pea
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alright. so i just finished listening to the whole thing, and
1. i can't believe ian wasn't laughing
2. i have my computer running to my receiver, and 4 big speakers so the train blew my mind. good thing i wasn't rooolllin' lol.
3. this guy is talking out of his ass, and is literally scared shitless about what sort of shit this may bring down. that's why he offers a "partnership", to try and cover his ass.
4. zain is just some sweaty fat dude that works tech support.
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since I'm too lazy to listen to the whole thing - what was the "threat" at the end?
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basically him saying don't fuck with "us"
don't fuck with anyone from the board because we are smart people despite seeming like total idiots.
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1. How old is this guy?
2. If the shirts cannot be copywrited, they can be trademarked.
3. Delete his advertising posts on the thread, so he can't make $$.
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um... where do i go to download this?
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0xDEADBEEF posted this on Mar 07th, 2003 at 03:11:22 am AST
I would LOVE to see something like this go to court. It would rule to hear lawyer types talking about this stuff with a serious tone.
ahaha let's take it to judge judy.
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Ummm, the link in the first post.
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he's 35-ish.
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zvkvriv, please do the dance remix
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i just find it funny that this guy wants to sell items he stole from 2 sources.
and you don't fuck with the government. ahaha
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ian >
"i will drop one warning?don't screw around with me?
don't screw around with us...
because we all act like idiots
but we're all very smart.
and we all know what we're doing
so just ... be cautious
don't screw with any of us.
and i'm not trying to be threatening or anything..."
zain>
"obviously you figured out from this conversation that i'm not an idiot"
----------------------------------
zain>
"i'd like to see the board thrive...
and you and i personally thrive.
it's rare that i meet people that i feel that
i could get to know better."
UH OH IAN, SOUNDS LIKE HE'S ALREADY SEEN THE COCKSHOT!!!
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i don't have a link in the first post.
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http://crewcial.org/mung.mp3
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thanks ian.
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i'll have to wait till i get home tonight to listen to this. i can't here it well unless i blast it in my cube.
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hear.
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hi
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We should have just called him and blared that "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US" song.
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:(
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that would've been funny.
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or iron maiden "invaders"
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ian. you are one solid individual.
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I finally got the threatening email from him. I guess this has pretty much run its course.
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but can we make tshirts with his name/address/phone number on them?
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I just have to say... someone has some serious insecurity issues... I wont say who though... ahem... I think we know who...
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i wonder who that girl was that called him a fuckface....
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i was just about to post and say it was you, but then i actually looked at who posted that.
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Hey! you are smart! It was me...
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"well, we've got a little situation on our hands...."
"but in return i need that stuff to stop. Yeah! the insults!"
"it was like, 1:00 in the morning, i'm sitting there reading your posts, and just kinda drinking my coke, and spewed shit everywhere..."
"i thought, that's a great idea, let's put in on a t-shirt! it was spur of the moment shit."
"i'll change my login so that people think i'm gone, and I'll just kind of hang out."
"when someone calls you a fuckface, you tend to get a little angry."
"i'm a business man, i take care of the deals"
"some of the boys i'm used to dealing with, they're like level 3"
this guy is on a power trip either way...
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he does a porn business and is a teacher...that's kinda funny
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This guy sounds like a bad actor reading a script. And this thing is 24 minutes???
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"you know what rolls are?"
"uh, like doughy kinds of things."
amazing.
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you know what's a piece of shit? a college degree!
and then ian orgasms right in the middle of it!
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:D
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he was going to contact his LA lawyer... he must have a huuuuge dick.
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"when someone calls you a fuckface, you tend to get a little angry."
funny story, this happens to me SO frequetnly that i don't even notice anymore and it doesn't get me angry. its like my nickname.
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dude.. what was with the "uuuuhhhh uhhhhhh uuuuhhhhh it costs about $10 a month" it sounded like sex.
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quiet, fuckface!
haha just kidding
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Damn, I'm gonna have to burn this and listen to it in my car...my pooch gets scared whenever he hears the voices.
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i've heard mung twice.
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i looped that part.
now you know what i sound like during sex.
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shakesenora posted this on Mar 07th, 2003 at 01:47:25 pm AST
he was going to contact his LA lawyer... he must have a huuuuge dick.
and his lawyer will laugh at him and say that he's a jackass for stealing from a government site and an internet messageboard.
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300!!!
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DAMMIT. MISSED IT BY ONE
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where are train tracks in "your town". i think i know of ones in Spring C,. ive lived here so long and i have no idea where things are.
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"what the hell's an NBA???"
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those aren't in spring city, they are in royersford.
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haha the ending to this was pretty damn funny.
nicely handled Ian :)
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hey nick, did this guy really give you $50 and some free merch?
p.s. i heard 9 mungs
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9? not bad. i thought i got ten. but 9 is about right.
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haha ian's voice is NOTHING like i imagined it. WEIRD
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i've never met ian face to face, now i'm not important.
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haha me neither
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andrew, what did you THINK it sounded like?
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kind like that "urkel" kid, maybe
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ian i don't know, i didn't imagine it as so MANLY.
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sexy man voice.
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My correspondance with Zain went well.
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hey, they talked about me in that phonecall. WEIRD
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"oh.. ok... i know who you're talking about"
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This makes me like Ian a lot.
I don't get the mung thing though !
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why did i just waste my time reading this
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*grin*
I hate him for stealing my idea about making shirts. ;)
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So ian, what are you going to do?
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I sincerely hope that he didn't mean level three as in OTIII as in Operating Thetan III.
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genius!
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